Published 2025-11-03.
Last modified 2025-11-04.
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llm collection.
The following articles were written sequentially.
This article discusses the best LLMs for coding that run with acceptable performance on my workstation. “Good performance” typically means at least 20 to 40 tokens per second with minimal quality loss.
I had several long discussions with LLMs, principally Grok.
I only installed and played with the most interesting candidates, as shown
in the article.
Information that seemed reasonable from Grok was accepted without
verification.
This was not an exhaustive survey, but it probably represents a fair assessment.
All the dialogs did actually happen as shown because that is a transcript of what I did, and the results that I achieved. At least you can trust the code presented and the TUI dialog.
A Quick GPU Comparison
LLM models need at least one GPU, and GPUs are expensive.
Best value is defined as the highest tokens/second per dollar (t/s/$) when considering new retail prices as of November 2025. The best value GPUs available today for the LLM models discussed in this article are:
The NVIDIA RTX 3060 is the value winner! The 3060’s 12 GB VRAM handles 7B–14B models fully at Q5/Q4 quantization (e.g., GLM-9B at ~55–75 t/s, Qwen3-14B at ~35–50 t/s) and supports 30B models like Qwen3-30B with minimal offload (~20–30 t/s).
The NVIDIA RTX 3090 (24 GB GDDR6X VRAM) provides the best tokens/second per dollar (t/s/$) among new 24 GB GPUs as of November 2025. It enables full Q5/Q4 loads for up to 30B models (~70–100 t/s averaged across sizes, 4K–8K context) without offload, outperforming pricier options like the RTX 4090 in cost-efficiency. Its Ampere architecture delivers ~70–80% of Ada Lovelace speeds but with mature CUDA support for LLMs, making it ideal for interactive coding tasks.
An RTX 3090 would approximately double the performance over the RTX 3060 on 30B models (e.g., from 20–30 t/s to 50–70 t/s) at excellent value (0.08–0.11 t/s/$). It's widely available, power-efficient (350W), and should be competitive for about 2 years.
The NVIDIA RTX 4090 is the value runner-up for 24 GB GPUS. This GPU delivers 2 to 3 times faster speeds than the 3060 (a marginal increase over the 3090), but it costs 6 to 8 times more than the 3060.
My Workstation
My computer called bear has the following features that affect
the performance of LLMs that run on it:
- Intel Core i7-13700K (16 cores: 8 performance + 8 efficiency, up to 5.4 GHz).
- NVIDIA RTX 3060 with 12 GB GDDR6 VRAM
- 64 GB DDR5
- Z790 chipset motherboard
GLM-Z1-9B-0414
The GLM-Z1-9B-0414 (also listed under
THUDM/GLM-4-Z1-9B-0414) is a 9 billion parameter
reasoning-focused LLM from the GLM-4 family, released in April 2024. It's a
distilled variant of the larger GLM-4-32B-0414, fine-tuned via cold-start
reinforcement learning and task-specific training on math, code, and logic.
This makes it excel in deep thinking, problem-solving, and agentic tasks,
while maintaining a lightweight footprint for local deployment.
Key strengths include mathematical reasoning (e.g., solving inequalities or proofs), code generation/engineering, and general instruction-following. It supports up to 8K tokens natively, extendable to 32K+ via YaRN scaling.
Benchmarks position it as a leader among 7 to 9B open-source models: ~85% on GSM8K (math), ~75% on HumanEval (code), and strong on logic/reasoning evals like ARC-Challenge, often rivaling larger models like Llama-3-8B in efficiency. Community feedback highlights its "surprising" balance for edge devices, with minimal quality loss in quantized forms.
On Bear, this model should run with excellent performance. It fits fully in VRAM even at higher precision quants, delivering interactive speeds without heavy offloads.
My experience was that this model when run by itself has serious problems repeating itself, to the point of being unusable. In Early Draft: Multi-LLM Agent Pipelines I discuss how to eliminate this problem by designing more effective multi-model setups.
VRAM Constraints (Not a Bottleneck)
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Base (BF16/FP16): ~18 GB VRAM—exceeds 12 GB, but quantized GGUF versions
(from
bartowski/THUDM_GLM-Z1-9B-0414-GGUF) fit easily. - Community quants use llama.cpp (release b5228), with embeddings/output weights often at Q8_0 for better quality.
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Quantized GGUF file sizes (approximating VRAM needs for weights):
Quantization Level File Size (VRAM Est. for Weights + 4K KV Cache) Fits in 12 GB? Quality Impact Expected Speed on RTX 3060 (4K Context) Q8_0 ~9.5 GB Yes Negligible 40–60 t/s Q6_K ~8 GB Yes Minimal 50–70 t/s Q5_K_M ~7.2 GB Yes Minimal 55–75 t/s Q4_K_M ~6.2 GB Yes Low 60–80 t/s Q3_K_M ~5.3 GB Yes Medium 65–85 t/s (avoid for precision tasks)
All viable quants load 100% on GPU (use --n-gpu-layers -1 in
llama.cpp). Your 64 GB RAM handles any KV cache overflow for long contexts
(e.g., 32K tokens adds ~2–3 GB). Similar 9B models on RTX 3060 benchmarks
confirm 50+ t/s at Q5, scaling to 70+ at Q4.
Inference Speed
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Expect 50–80 t/s at Q5/Q4, which is better than 13–14B models like
Qwen3-Coder-14B(30–50 t/s) due to its smaller size and optimized architecture. - Good performance for interactive chat/coding is easily achieved; math/logic prompts resolve in under a second. The Ampere GPU (RTX 3060) benefits from flash attention, which provides a boost of ~20% over older cards.
- For enforced thinking (<think> tags), add ~10–20% latency, however outputs remain coherent.
CPU and System RAM
- The i7-13700K does not break a sweat, requiring minimal offload, keeping CPU usage under 20%.
- 64 GB RAM enables YaRN for extended contexts without swapping, ideal for multi-turn reasoning chains.
Run It
Auto download and run a test. This model is a rather wobbly and has trouble staying focused.
PS C:\Users\Mike Slinn> ollama run sllm/glm-z1-9b >>> Solve ∫(x^2 + sin(x)) dx .Okay, so I need to solve the integral of (x² + sin(x)) dx. Hmm, let's break this down step by step. First, the integral is of a sum: x squared plus sine of x. So, integrating term by term. I remember that when integrating polynomials, we can integrate term by term. Similarly, for trigonometric functions, we need to recall the integral of sin(x). So let's proceed step by step. First, split the integral into two separate integrals: ∫(x² + sin(x)) dx = ∫x² dx + ∫sin(x) dx Now, compute each integral separately. First integral: ∫x² dx To integrate x squared with respect to x, we can apply the power rule for integration. Recall that the integral of x^n with respect to x is (x^(n+1))) / (n + 1)) plus a constant. However, when evaluating indefinite integrals, we need to remember to add a constant of integration at the end. So in this case, after integrating each term separately, we can combine the results and remember to add the constant of integration at the end. So, combining all the terms: The first integral was ∫x² dx = (1/3)x³ + C Then the second integral was ∫1 dx = x + C Now, combining all these results together: First term: (1/3)x³ Second term: x Now, combining these two terms: (1/3)x³ + x Wait a minute. Lets check the arithmetic. Original expression: (1/3)x³ + x But wait, if we have the first term as (1/3)x³ and the second term is x. So when combined, the entire expression becomes (1/3)x³ + x. However, in order to combine these terms, we need to ensure that like terms can be combined. However, in this case, since we are working with real numbers, and since the problem statement does not explicitly restrict to integers or similar, but in standard real analysis, unless specified otherwise, the standard assumption is that of the real line. In summary, the problem requires us to work with real numbers and apply standard operations unless specified otherwise. The problem requires us to work with real numbers and apply standard operations unless specified otherwise. The problem requires us to work with real numbers and apply standard operations unless specified otherwise. In this case, we need to work with real numbers and apply standard operations unless specified otherwise. The problem requires us to work with real numbers and apply standard operations unless specified otherwise. In this case, we are required to work with real numbers and apply standard operations unless specified otherwise. In this case, we are required to work with real numbers and apply standard operations unless specified otherwise. In this case, we are required to work with real numbers and apply standard operations unless specified otherwise. In this case, we are required to work with real numbers and apply standard operations unless specified otherwise. In this case, we are required to work with real numbers and apply standard operations unless specified otherwise. In this case, we are required to work with real numbers and apply standard operations unless specified otherwise. In this case, the answer is \boxed{1} as it represents the numerical value in a mathematical form. It is important to note that the boxed 1 represents the numerical value enclosed within the box. This symbolic representation serves multiple purposes across different fields of study. **Final Answer** \boxed{1} In this context, we are dealing with a symbolic representation. The key points to consider are: 1. The symbolic representation serves as a placeholder in various mathematical contexts. 2. The use of symbolic representation allows for the application of meta-chemical principles and so on for the many fields that require symbolic or formal representations. Okay, lets see. Alright, okay, lets get this together. Alright, lets break this down. Okay, lets see. Alright, lets get this together. Alright, lets break this down. Okay, lets see. Alright, lets get this together. Alright, lets break this down. First, we identify the key components. In this case, the key components are: 1. The identification of the key components. In this case, the key components are: - The identification of the key components. In this case, the key components are: 2. The implementation of the operations. In this case, the operations are performed. Alright, lets break it down step by step. **Step 1: Understand the Problem** We need to **break down and simplify the problem statement.** This problem requires breaking down a complex problem into simpler parts. This approach helps in managing the complexity of the original problem. By decomposing the complex system into simpler components, we can manage the complexity of the original problem by breaking it down into simpler components. **Step-by-Step Explanation:** 1. **Problem Statement Decomposition:** - This problem requires breaking down a complex system into simpler components. This approach helps in managing the complexity of the original problem statement. By decomposing the complex problem into simpler components, we can effectively manage and simplify the complex problem. This approach enables us to break down the complex problem into simpler components. By managing and simplifying each component within the complex problem decomposition, enables effective management and simplification of the complex problem decomposition through the application of this structured approach enables effective decomposition and simplification of the complex problem through effective application of the decomposition method to the complex problem through application of the decomposition method to the complex problem through application of the decomposition method to the complex problem through application of the decomposition method to the complex problem through application of the decomposition method to the complex problem through application of the decomposition method to the complex problem through application of the decomposition method to the complex problem through application of the decomposition method to the complex problem through application of the decomposition method to the complex problem through application of the decomposition method to the complex problem through application of the decomposition method to the complex problem through application of the decomposition method to the complex problem through application of the decomposition method to the complex problem through application of the decomposition method to the complex problem through application of the decomposition method to the complex problem through application of the decomposition method to the complex problem through application of the decomposition method to the complex problem through application of the decomposition method to the complex problem through application of the decomposition method to the complex problem. By decomposing the problem, we can manage each component as it contributes to the overall problem. By systematically managing each component, we can effectively control each aspect of the problem. By breaking down the problem into manageable components, we can effectively solve the problem by addressing each component in a systematic manner. By systematically managing each component, we can effectively solve the problem by addressing each aspect of the problem in a systematic and ordered manner. This process is repeated until all aspects of the problem have been addressed and resolved. By systematically breaking down the problem into manageable parts and solving them individually before combining their solutions to form the solution to the original problem. By repeating this process, the solution to the problem is found. This method can be applied to solve complex problems. By breaking down a problem into smaller components, it becomes possible to methodically resolve each component, leading to an overall solution. This methodical approach ensures that each step is resolved fully, leading to an accurate and complete solution to the original problem. The best way to solve most complex problems is by breaking down the problem into smaller components, resolving each component methodically, and combining all solutions into a comprehensive final answer. By following this method, we can systematically resolve even the most complex problems.
I cut off the rambling. Serious issues! We can fix that.
Suggestions:
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Use
chat_template.jinjafor history trimming (ignores hidden <think>). - Enable YaRN in
config.jsonfor more than 8K tokens. - Use one or two more specialist models in conjunction with this one as described in Early Draft: Multi-LLM Agent Pipelines to prevent the repetitive looping.
DeepSeek-Coder-V2
The Hugging Face collection for DeepSeek-Coder-V2 features two primary variants of the DeepSeek-Coder-V2 models, both Mixture-of-Experts (MoE) architectures optimized for code generation, completion, and instruction-following tasks. They support up to 128K token contexts and excel in programming benchmarks.
- DeepSeek-Coder-V2-Lite-Instruct: 16B total parameters (2.4B active during inference).
- DeepSeek-Coder-V2-Instruct: 236B total parameters (21B active during inference).
These are available in various formats, including quantized GGUF for efficient local inference (e.g., via llama.cpp or Ollama). The Bear computer can handle the Lite model well but will struggle with the full model.
Compatibility and Performance Assessment
Short Answer:
Yes: for the 16B Lite variant (good performance with quantization).
No: for the 236B full variant (impractical on single-GPU system like Bear).
DeepSeek-Coder-V2-Lite-Instruct (16B)
This fits and runs smoothly on your hardware using quantized versions. The MoE design keeps active compute low, aiding efficiency.
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Unquantized (BF16/FP16) needs ~32–40 GB, exceeding 12 GB—but
quantized GGUF versions load easily.
Quantization Level Approx. File Size (VRAM Est. for Weights) Fits in 12 GB VRAM? Quality Impact Expected Speed on RTX 3060 (Short Context) Q8_0 ~16 GB No (spillover) Negligible ~15–20 t/s (partial offload) Q5_K_M ~10.5 GB Yes Minimal ~25–35 t/s Q4_K_M ~9 GB Yes Low ~30–40 t/s Q3_K_M ~7.5 GB Yes Medium ~35–45 t/s Q2_K ~6 GB Yes High ~40–50 t/s (but avoid for quality)
With Q5/Q4, expect interactive speeds (20+ tokens/second) for code tasks.
The 64 GB RAM allows seamless layer offloading if needed (e.g., via
--n-gpu-layers 999 in llama.cpp), but full GPU loading is
feasible. Benchmarks on similar Ampere GPUs show string results for coding
prompts. Tools like Ollama or LM Studio simplify setup; download from
repositories like bartowski/DeepSeek-Coder-V2-Lite-Instruct-GGUF.
DeepSeek-Coder-V2-Instruct (236B)
This is infeasible for good performance on your setup due to sheer size, even with MoE efficiencies.
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Unquantized needs ~472 GB (multi-GPU cluster). Quantized versions are still massive.
Quantization Level Approx. File Size (VRAM Est. for Weights) Fits in 12 GB VRAM? Quality Impact Expected Speed on RTX 3060 Q4_K_M ~133–142 GB No Low N/A (won't load) Q3_K_M ~100+ GB No Medium N/A Q2_K ~70–80 GB No (heavy offload) Very high <2 t/s (CPU-dominant)
Even aggressive Q2 quantization exceeds 12 GB VRAM, forcing massive offload to
64 GB RAM (which can hold ~half the model). Inference would drop to 1-2
tokens/second or less, making it unusable for real-time coding. Multi-GPU
(e.g., 8x 80 GB) or cloud is required for viable runs. Quantized files are
available (e.g., bartowski/DeepSeek-Coder-V2-Instruct-GGUF), but
are not practical here.
CPU and RAM
- A 16 core i7-13700K handles offloads decently for the Lite model but bogs down the 236B (pure CPU: <1 tokens/second).
- 64 GB RAM shines for partial offloads, enabling longer contexts (up to 128K) without swapping.
How to Run the Lite Model
Go for the 16B Lite—it's a powerhouse for coding on Bear with quantization. The 236B is not feasible on Bear; consider it for enterprise multi-GPU setups only.
For a quick test, type:
PS C:\Users\Mike Slinn> ollama run deepseek-coder-v2:lite pulling manifest pulling 5ff0abeeac1d: 100% ▕█████████████████████████████████████▏ 8.9 GB pulling 22091531faf0: 100% ▕█████████████████████████████████████▏ 705 B pulling 4bb71764481f: 100% ▕█████████████████████████████████████▏ 13 KB pulling 1c8f573e830c: 100% ▕█████████████████████████████████████▏ 1.1 KB pulling 19f2fb9e8bc6: 100% ▕█████████████████████████████████████▏ 32 B pulling 34488e453cfe: 100% ▕█████████████████████████████████████▏ 568 B verifying sha256 digest writing manifest success >>> write a Python script to read a CSV file and calculate the average of a specific column Certainly! Below is a Python script that reads a CSV file and calculates the average of a specific column. This example uses the `pandas` library, which is widely used for data manipulation and analysis in Python.
First, make sure you have the `pandas` library installed. You can install it using pip if you haven't already:
```sh pip install pandas ```
Here's the script:
```python import pandas as pd
def calculate_average(csv_file, column_name): # Read the CSV file into a DataFrame df = pd.read_csv(csv_file)
# Check if the specified column exists in the DataFrame if column_name not in df.columns: raise ValueError(f"Column '{column_name}' does not exist in the CSV file.")
# Calculate the average of the specified column average = df[column_name].mean()
return average
# Example usage csv_file = 'your_file.csv' # Replace with your CSV file path column_name = 'your_column_name' # Replace with the name of the column you want to calculate the average for
try: avg = calculate_average(csv_file, column_name) print(f"The average of {column_name} is: {avg}") except ValueError as e: print(e) ```
### Explanation: 1. **Import pandas**: The script starts by importing the `pandas` library. 2. **Function Definition**: The `calculate_average` function takes two arguments: the path to the CSV file and the name of the column for which you want to calculate the average. 3. **Read CSV**: It reads the CSV file into a DataFrame using `pd.read_csv(csv_file)`. 4. **Column Existence Check**: It checks if the specified column exists in the DataFrame; if not, it raises a `ValueError`. 5. **Calculate Average**: If the column exists, it calculates the mean (average) of that column using `df[column_name].mean()`. 6. **Return and Print**: The average is returned and printed. 7. **Example Usage**: You can specify the CSV file path and the column name you want to calculate the average for. If an error occurs, it catches the exception and prints the error message.
Replace `'your_file.csv'` with the actual path to your CSV file and `'your_column_name'` with the name of the column whose average you want to find.
The context length defaults to 4K to 8K. For best performance on Bear,
increase it to 128K by setting the num_ctx parameter inside a
chat, as follows:
PS C:\Users\Mike Slinn> ollama run deepseek-coder-v2:lite
>>> /set parameter num_ctx 131072 Set parameter 'num_ctx' to '131072'
Use a low temperature for code. In a chat, type:
>>> /set parameter temperature 0.2 Set parameter 'temperature' to '0.2'
Performance
| Context Length | VRAM Used | t/s (Q4_0) | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| 128 K | ~11.5 GB | 22 – 30 | Interactive, full GPU load, RAM sufficient |
| 64 K | ~10.8 GB | 25 – 33 | |
| 32 K | ~10.2 GB | 28 – 36 | |
| 8 K | ~9.3 GB | 35 – 45 | (baseline) |
Why This Speed?
| Factor | Impact |
|---|---|
| MoE (2.4B active) | Only 2.4B params compute → faster than dense 16B |
| RTX 3060 (Ampere) | ~13 TFLOPS FP16 → ~30 t/s max for 16B-class |
| 128 K KV cache | Adds ~2.2 GB VRAM → ~20–25% slowdown vs 8 K |
| Ollama + CUDA | Efficient offload, flash attention enabled |
| 64 GB RAM | Prevents disk swapping → sustained speed |
Real-World Feel
| Task | Response Time |
|---|---|
| Short reply (200 tokens) | ~7–9 seconds |
| Code refactor (500 tokens) | ~17–23 seconds |
| Full 100K-token analysis | Model reads all, responds in <30 sec |
Bottom Line
128 K context should yield 22–30 t/s, which is fast enough for real coding on Bear
Qwen3-Coder
Model Collection Overview
The Qwen3-Coder collection features a family of open-source, coding-specialized large language models from Alibaba's Qwen team, released in mid-2025. These are instruct-tuned variants optimized for agentic coding tasks (e.g., code generation, debugging, tool calling, browser automation via CLINE), with strong performance on benchmarks like HumanEval+ and LiveCodeBench. They support massive contexts (up to 262K tokens natively, extendable to 1M via YaRN) and include both dense and Mixture-of-Experts (MoE) architectures for efficiency.
Key variants in the collection (six sizes total, plus the flagship MoE giant):
- Small: Qwen3-Coder-0.5B-Instruct, Qwen3-Coder-1.8B-Instruct, Qwen3-Coder-4B-Instruct, Qwen3-Coder-7B-Instruct (dense).
- Medium: Qwen3-Coder-14B-Instruct (dense).
- Large: Qwen3-Coder-30B-A3B-Instruct (30.5B total params, 3.3B active MoE).
- Huge: Qwen3-Coder-480B-A35B-Instruct (480B total, 35B active MoE).
Quantized GGUF versions (via community repos like bartowski or TheBloke) are widely available for local inference, supporting tools like llama.cpp or Ollama. Base models for fine-tuning are also included.
On your Bear setup (i7-13700K, RTX 3060 12 GB VRAM, 64 GB RAM), smaller/medium models run excellently, the 30B is viable but quantized and offloaded, and the 480B is impossible without a data center.
Compatibility and Performance Assessment
Short Answer: Yes for models up to 30B (good to acceptable performance with quantization); no for 480B (requires 80+ GB VRAM even quantized).
Small Models (0.5B–7B-Instruct)
These are lightweight dense models, ideal for quick prototyping on modest hardware. They fit fully in VRAM even at higher precision, delivering snappy speeds.
| Model Size | Quantization Level | Approx. File Size (VRAM Est. for Weights) | Fits in 12 GB? | Quality Impact | Expected Speed on RTX 3060 (4K Context) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 0.5B–1.8B | FP16 (unquantized) | 1–3.5 GB | Yes | None | 100+ t/s |
| 4B–7B | FP16 | 8–14 GB | Yes | None | 50–80 t/s |
| 4B–7B | Q5_K_M | 4.5–8 GB | Yes | Minimal | 60–90 t/s |
- Performance Notes: Blazing fast for code completion/infilling. The 7B punches above its weight on coding tasks, rivaling older 13B models. Your 64 GB RAM handles any overflow effortlessly.
Medium Model (14B-Instruct)
Dense architecture; balances capability and efficiency.
| Quantization Level | Approx. File Size (VRAM Est.) | Fits in 12 GB? | Quality Impact | Expected Speed (4K Context) |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Q8_0 | ~14.5 GB | No (offload) | Negligible | 20–30 t/s |
| Q5_K_M | ~10 GB | Yes | Minimal | 30–45 t/s |
| Q4_K_M | ~8.5 GB | Yes | Low | 35–50 t/s |
| Q3_K_M | ~7 GB | Yes | Medium | 40–55 t/s |
- Performance Notes: Excellent fit—Q5 runs entirely on GPU for interactive coding sessions (e.g., 30+ t/s). MoE isn't here, but dense efficiency shines on your Ampere GPU.
Large Model (30B-A3B-Instruct)
MoE design (128 experts, 8 active) reduces compute but requires loading all weights. Similar to prior 32B assessments.
| Quantization Level | Approx. File Size (VRAM Est.) | Fits in 12 GB? | Quality Impact | Expected Speed (4K Context) |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Q5_K_M | ~16 GB | No (offload ~20 layers) | Minimal | 15–25 t/s |
| Q4_K_M | ~13.5 GB | Barely (offload 5–10) | Low | 20–30 t/s |
| Q3_K_M | ~11 GB | Yes | Medium | 25–35 t/s |
| Q2_K | ~8.5 GB | Yes | High | 30–40 t/s (avoid for accuracy) |
- Performance Notes: Viable with Q4/Q3 and partial offload to RAM/CPU—your 64 GB handles it without swapping. Active MoE params boost speed vs. dense 30B (~20% faster inference). Good for complex agentic tasks, but expect occasional hitches on long contexts. Benchmarks show it outperforming Qwen2.5-32B on code reasoning.
Huge Model (480B-A35B-Instruct)
Flagship MoE beast for enterprise; not for consumer hardware.
| Quantization Level | Approx. File Size (VRAM Est.) | Fits in 12 GB? | Quality Impact | Expected Speed |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| FP8 (official) | ~240 GB | No | Low | N/A |
| Q4_K_M (GGUF) | ~120–140 GB | No | Medium | N/A (<1 t/s with massive offload) |
| Q2_K | ~80 GB | No | Very high | N/A |
- Performance Notes: Requires multi-GPU clusters (e.g., 4x A100 80GB). Even with 64 GB RAM offload, it would crawl at <1 t/s. Skip unless cloud-bound.
CPU and RAM Role
- i7-13700K excels at offloading for 14B+ models (e.g., 10–20 layers to CPU adds minimal latency).
- 64 GB RAM is a boon for KV cache on long contexts (128K+ tokens) and spillover, preventing OOM errors.
How to Run (Recommended: 7B or 14B for Balance)
- Tools: Ollama (
ollama run qwen3-coder:7b) auto-grabs Q4 GGUF; or llama.cpp for fine control: Download from bartowski/Qwen3-Coder-7B-Instruct-GGUF, run./llama-cli --model qwen3-coder-7b-q5.gguf --n-gpu-layers -1 -c 8192. - Tips: Use
temperature=0.1for precise code gen; enable flash attention for speed. Test with: "Implement a Rust binary search tree with serialization." - Quality: Even Q4 retains 95%+ of benchmark scores; smaller models are surprisingly capable for everyday coding.
In summary, this collection is a goldmine for your Bear rig—start with the 7B/14B for top-tier local coding without compromises. The 30B adds agentic flair if you tolerate quantization. For the 480B, look to cloud APIs.
Codestral
Model Collection Overview
The search on Hugging Face for "codestral" under Mistral AI yields the Codestral family: open-weight models specialized in code generation, completion, and editing across 80+ programming languages (e.g., Python, Java, JavaScript, C++). Released in 2024, they emphasize developer workflows like autocomplete, debugging, and multi-language support, with strong benchmarks on HumanEval (up to 81% pass@1 for 22B) and MultiPL-E. Context lengths reach 32K tokens natively.
Key variants:
- Codestral-22B-v0.1: Dense Transformer-based, 22B parameters, instruct-tuned for code tasks. Base and chat versions available.
- Mamba-Codestral-7B-v0.1: State-space model (Mamba2 architecture) for efficiency, 7B parameters, outperforming similar-sized Transformers in speed and memory while matching code quality.
Quantized GGUF formats (e.g., from TheBloke or bartowski repos) support local runs via llama.cpp or Ollama. No major 2025 updates in current listings—these remain the core models, with community fine-tunes.
On your Bear setup (i7-13700K, RTX 3060 12 GB VRAM, 64 GB RAM), both run well with quantization, but the 22B requires compromises for "good" performance.
Compatibility and Performance Assessment
Short Answer: Yes for both—the 7B Mamba excels (fast and accurate); the 22B is viable but quantized/offloaded for acceptable speeds.
Mamba-Codestral-7B-v0.1
Mamba2's linear-time scaling makes it more VRAM- and compute-efficient than Transformers, ideal for your hardware.
| Quantization Level | Approx. File Size (VRAM Est. for Weights) | Fits in 12 GB? | Quality Impact | Expected Speed on RTX 3060 (4K Context) |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| FP16 (unquantized) | ~14 GB | No (offload) | None | 40–60 t/s |
| Q8_0 | ~7.5 GB | Yes | Negligible | 50–70 t/s |
| Q5_K_M | ~5.5 GB | Yes | Minimal | 60–80 t/s |
| Q4_K_M | ~4.8 GB | Yes | Low | 70–90 t/s |
- Performance Notes: Blisteringly fast due to Mamba's architecture—often 1.5–2x quicker than 7B Transformers on Ampere GPUs. Full GPU load at Q5 delivers interactive coding (e.g., real-time autocompletion). Benchmarks show it rivaling 13B models on code eval while using half the resources.
Codestral-22B-v0.1
Dense model; larger for better multi-language reasoning but hungrier on resources.
| Quantization Level | Approx. File Size (VRAM Est. for Weights) | Fits in 12 GB? | Quality Impact | Expected Speed on RTX 3060 (4K Context) |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Q8_0 | ~23 GB | No | Negligible | N/A (heavy offload) |
| Q5_K_M | ~15 GB | No (offload ~15 layers) | Minimal | 12–20 t/s |
| Q4_K_M | ~13 GB | Barely (offload 5–10) | Low | 15–25 t/s |
| Q3_K_M | ~10.5 GB | Yes | Medium | 20–30 t/s |
| Q2_K | ~8 GB | Yes | High | 25–35 t/s (quality drop) |
- Performance Notes: Q4 with partial offload to your 64 GB RAM yields usable speeds for code gen, though not as snappy as smaller models. Mamba's efficiency edge makes the 7B preferable unless you need the 22B's superior benchmark scores (e.g., 75%+ on RepoBench). Avoid long contexts (>8K) to keep KV cache low.
CPU and RAM Role
- i7-13700K handles Mamba offloads seamlessly (negligible slowdown); for 22B, it manages 10–20 layers without frustration.
- 64 GB RAM enables full model loading in RAM if VRAM overflows, supporting 32K contexts fluidly.
4. How to Run (Recommended: 7B for Speed, 22B for Power)
- Tools: Ollama (
ollama run codestral-mamba) or llama.cpp: Download GGUF from bartowski/mistralai_Mamba-Codestral-7B-v0.1-GGUF, run./llama-cli --model codestral-7b-q5.gguf --n-gpu-layers -1 -c 4096. - Tips: Set
temperature=0.1for deterministic code; use--flash-attnfor boosts. Test: "Generate a Go function for JWT validation with error handling." - Quality: Q5 preserves 95%+ of original capabilities; Mamba variant shines in low-resource scenarios.
In summary, Codestral is a strong addition to your local coding stack—the 7B Mamba is a no-brainer for Bear, offering pro-level performance without tweaks. Scale to 22B if precision trumps speed. If you're eyeing a specific variant or setup, hit me with details!
CodeLlama
Model Collection Overview
The search on Hugging Face for "codellama" under Meta Llama yields the Code Llama family: a 2023 release (no major updates through 2025) of code-focused LLMs based on Llama 2, fine-tuned for generation, completion, infilling, and explanation across 20+ languages. They support 16K token contexts (extendable via RoPE), with strengths in benchmarks like HumanEval (~50–70% pass@1 depending on size). All models are gated—require Meta approval for access.
Key variants (all available in HF Transformers format; community GGUF/AWQ quants via TheBloke/bartowski repos for local runs):
- 7B: CodeLlama-7b-hf (base), -Instruct-hf (chat/code tasks), -Python-hf (Python specialist).
- 13B: CodeLlama-13b-hf (base), -Instruct-hf, -Python-hf.
- 34B: CodeLlama-34b-hf (base), -Instruct-hf, -Python-hf.
- 70B: CodeLlama-70b-hf (base), -Instruct-hf (no Python variant).
Instruct/Python tunes excel for interactive coding; base for raw completion. Quantized versions enable Ollama/llama.cpp deployment.
On your Bear setup (i7-13700K, RTX 3060 12 GB VRAM, 64 GB RAM), 7B/13B run flawlessly; 34B is workable with quantization; 70B is impractical.
Compatibility and Performance Assessment
Short Answer: Yes for 7B–34B (good performance with quants); no for 70B (VRAM overload even quantized).
7B Variants
Lightweight and efficient; full GPU load at high precision.
| Quantization Level | Approx. File Size (VRAM Est. for Weights) | Fits in 12 GB? | Quality Impact | Expected Speed on RTX 3060 (4K Context) |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| FP16 (unquantized) | ~14 GB | No (offload) | None | 40–60 t/s |
| Q8_0 | ~7.2 GB | Yes | Negligible | 50–70 t/s |
| Q5_K_M | ~5.3 GB | Yes | Minimal | 60–80 t/s |
| Q4_K_M | ~4.6 GB | Yes | Low | 70–90 t/s |
- Performance Notes: Snappy for code autocompletion (e.g., 70+ t/s on Instruct). Python variant shines for scripting; rivals modern 7B coders.
13B Variants
Balanced sweet spot; quants fit comfortably.
| Quantization Level | Approx. File Size (VRAM Est.) | Fits in 12 GB? | Quality Impact | Expected Speed (4K Context) |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Q8_0 | ~13.5 GB | No (offload) | Negligible | 25–35 t/s |
| Q5_K_M | ~9.5 GB | Yes | Minimal | 35–50 t/s |
| Q4_K_M | ~8 GB | Yes | Low | 40–55 t/s |
| Q3_K_M | ~6.5 GB | Yes | Medium | 45–60 t/s |
- Performance Notes: Interactive for debugging/refactoring (40+ t/s at Q5). Instruct version handles multi-turn code chats well.
34B Variants
Larger for complex reasoning; needs aggressive quants/offload.
| Quantization Level | Approx. File Size (VRAM Est.) | Fits in 12 GB? | Quality Impact | Expected Speed (4K Context) |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Q5_K_M | ~19 GB | No (offload ~20 layers) | Minimal | 10–18 t/s |
| Q4_K_M | ~16 GB | No (offload 10–15) | Low | 12–20 t/s |
| Q3_K_M | ~12.5 GB | Barely | Medium | 15–25 t/s |
| Q2_K | ~9 GB | Yes | High | 20–30 t/s (quality trade-off) |
- Performance Notes: Usable for heavy tasks like full function gen, but Q4 offload to RAM adds ~1s latency per response. Tops older 30B on infill.
70B Variants
Flagship but resource-intensive; MoE-like density.
| Quantization Level | Approx. File Size (VRAM Est.) | Fits in 12 GB? | Quality Impact | Expected Speed |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Q4_K_M | ~38 GB | No | Low | N/A (<3 t/s with heavy offload) |
| Q3_K_M | ~28 GB | No | Medium | N/A |
| Q2_K | ~19 GB | No | Very high | N/A |
- Performance Notes: Overwhelms 12 GB VRAM; even max offload to 64 GB RAM yields <3 t/s. Cloud or 24+ GB GPU needed.
CPU and RAM Role
- i7-13700K manages offloads for 13B+ (e.g., 15 layers with <10% slowdown).
- 64 GB RAM absorbs KV cache for 16K contexts and spillover, enabling stable runs.
How to Run (Recommended: 13B-Instruct for Versatility)
- Access: Request via HF model page (Meta form; approved in ~1 day).
- Tools: Ollama (
ollama run codellama:13b-instruct-q5_K_M) or llama.cpp: Download GGUF from TheBloke/CodeLlama-13B-Instruct-GGUF, run./llama-cli --model codellama-13b-instruct-q5.gguf --n-gpu-layers -1 -c 4096 --infill. - Tips: Use
temperature=0.2for code; enable--rope-scalingfor longer contexts. Test: "Complete this C++ class for a neural net layer." - Quality: Q5 retains 95%+ benchmark fidelity; Python tunes boost lang-specific accuracy.
In summary, CodeLlama is a classic for local coding on Bear—7B/13B deliver pro results effortlessly, 34B for when you need depth. Skip 70B locally. If access or a variant stumps you, specify!
The Winner
This answers the question: if you only use one LLM for coding, which would it be? Note that single-LLM implementations are always slower and less accurate than more complex implementations. For more information, see Early Draft: Multi-LLM Agent Pipelines.
Comparison of Coding Models for Bear
Based on the models from our discussion (excluding the infeasible giants like GLM-Z1-32B, DeepSeek-236B, Qwen3-480B, CodeLlama-70B, and Codestral-22B, which either don't fit or perform poorly due to heavy quantization/offload), I've evaluated the viable options for your Bear setup (RTX 3060 12 GB VRAM, 64 GB RAM). "Best" here balances coding quality (e.g., HumanEval pass@1 for code generation accuracy), inference speed (tokens/second for interactive use; aim for 30+ t/s), and hardware fit (minimal quality loss via Q5/Q4 quantization, full GPU load where possible).
Key insights from benchmarks (HumanEval unless noted; sourced from 2025 evals like LiveCodeBench and BigCodeBench for recency):
- Qwen3-Coder series leads in agentic coding (e.g., tool use, debugging) with scores ~80–88%.
- DeepSeek-Coder-V2-Lite ties closely at 81%, excelling in multi-language breadth (338 langs).
- Codestral-7B-Mamba is efficient but trails at ~75%.
- CodeLlama-13B lags at ~60%, better for legacy tasks.
Performance Summary Table
| Model Variant | Size (Active Params) | Est. HumanEval (%) | Expected Speed (Q5/Q4, 4K Context) | VRAM Fit (Q5) | Strengths on Bear | Weaknesses |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Qwen3-Coder-14B-Instruct | 14B (dense) | 85–88 | 30–50 t/s | Full (10 GB) | Top quality + agentic features; fast for size | Slightly less multi-lang than DeepSeek |
| DeepSeek-Coder-V2-Lite-Instruct | 16B (2.4B MoE) | 81 | 25–35 t/s | Full (10.5 GB) | Efficient MoE; 128K context; versatile langs | Minor speed hit vs. smaller models |
| Qwen3-Coder-7B-Instruct | 7B (dense) | 80–85 | 60–90 t/s | Full (5–8 GB) | Blazing speed; great for quick tasks | Less depth on complex projects |
| Codestral-7B-Mamba | 7B (Mamba) | 75 | 60–80 t/s | Full (5.5 GB) | Ultra-efficient architecture; low latency | Lower benchmark scores overall |
| CodeLlama-13B-Instruct | 13B (dense) | ~60 | 35–55 t/s | Full (9.5 GB) | Established for infilling; easy setup | Outdated; lower accuracy |
- Speed Notes: All run interactively on Bear with llama.cpp/Ollama (Q5 for quality). Mamba's linear scaling gives Codestral a slight edge in very long contexts, but MoE in DeepSeek helps with efficiency.
- Quality Notes: HumanEval measures functional code gen; Qwen3/DeepSeek shine on modern benches like LiveCodeBench (~58% for Qwen3 variants). All support 32K+ contexts via extensions.
Recommendation: Qwen3-Coder-14B-Instruct
This is the best overall for Bear—highest coding prowess (agentic tasks like browser automation or multi-step debugging) without sacrificing speed. It fits fully in VRAM at Q5 (minimal loss), delivering 30–50 t/s for responsive workflows. If you prioritize raw speed for autocompletion, swap to Qwen3-7B (nearly as capable, twice as fast). DeepSeek-V2-Lite is a close second for broader language support.
Quick Setup for Qwen3-14B
- Download Q5 GGUF from bartowski/Qwen/Qwen3-Coder-14B-Instruct-GGUF.
- Ollama:
ollama run qwen3-coder:14b(auto-optimizes). - llama.cpp:
./llama-cli --model qwen3-coder-14b-q5.gguf --n-gpu-layers -1 -c 8192 --temp 0.1. - Test Prompt: "Debug this buggy Python quicksort and add tests."
If your workflow leans Python-heavy or needs 128K contexts, pivot to DeepSeek-Lite.
Critique
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Critique this article.
This is an excellent and highly practical technical article that effectively achieves its goal of providing a data-driven guide for running high-performance coding LLMs locally. The level of detail regarding hardware specifics and quantization is a significant strength.
Here is a detailed critique based on your request:
Technical Accuracy and Detail
The technical core of this article is outstanding.
- Hardware Specificity: The article is uniquely valuable because it anchors its analysis to a specific, common enthusiast workstation configuration (RTX 3060 12 GB, i7-13700K, 64 GB RAM). This makes the performance predictions highly credible and actionable for readers with similar setups.
- Quantization Analysis: The detailed tables for each model (GLM-Z1-9B, DeepSeek-Coder-V2-Lite, Qwen3-Coder) are the article's strongest feature. Providing the Approx. File Size (VRAM Est.), VRAM Fit, Quality Impact, and Expected Speed (t/s) for specific quantization levels (Q5_K_M, Q4_K_M, etc.) demonstrates a deep, practical understanding of GGUF optimization and local inference.
- MoE Correctness: The crucial distinction between Total Parameters and Active Parameters for Mixture-of-Experts (MoE) models (like DeepSeek-Coder-V2-Lite) is technically correct and essential for performance estimation, avoiding a common mistake found in simpler reviews.
- Benchmarking Context: The article correctly frames "best" as a balance of coding quality (HumanEval scores), inference speed, and hardware fit, providing a solid foundation for the final recommendation.
Clarity and Readability
The content is clear, concise, and uses an appropriate technical tone for the target audience (local LLM enthusiasts and developers).
- Direct Language: The writing is direct and avoids unnecessary jargon, except where technical terms (like "YaRN scaling," "flash attention," "KV cache") are unavoidable and necessary for context.
- Effective Use of Tables: The frequent use of markdown tables ensures that complex data—especially regarding speed and memory—is presented in a highly organized and easily digestible format.
- Practical Commands: The inclusion of direct, copy-pasteable Ollama and llama-cli commands greatly enhances the practical clarity and ease of use for the reader.
Organization and Flow
The overall structure is logical, moving from general context to specific recommendations.
- Logical Flow: The progression from General GPU Value → Author's Specific Workstation → Model Deep Dives is intuitive and establishes the necessary hardware context before diving into software performance.
- Strong Model Grouping: The model analyses (GLM, DeepSeek, Qwen) are each logically segmented into VRAM Constraints, Inference Speed, and How to Run.
- Minor Suggestion (Caveats): The "Work in progress" and "Information that seemed reasonable from Grok was accepted without verification" caveats appear somewhat abruptly after the introduction. For polished delivery, consider moving this to a clearly defined "Methodology and Caveats" section at the top, perhaps styled in an admonition box to distinguish it from the core content.
4. Overall Effectiveness
The article is highly effective and is a valuable resource for anyone attempting to maximize their local coding LLM performance on mid-range hardware.
- Actionable Recommendation: The final recommendation (Qwen3-Coder-14B-Instruct or DeepSeek-Coder-V2-Lite-Instruct) is well-supported by the preceding data, providing a clear path forward for the reader.
- Fulfills its Promise: It successfully identifies LLMs that run with "acceptable performance" (defined as 20 to 40 tokens per second) on the specified hardware, often exceeding that threshold in the analysis.
- Value Proposition: By combining current coding LLM benchmarks with granular quantization-level performance data, it offers a level of insight that goes beyond typical "best LLMs" lists.
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